by DC
I'm working on a different post that actually has something to do with capitalism, but I'll briefly continue the recent trend of posting generally about Christianity and Politics. I promise I'll come up with something more "on-topic"(?) next.
Years ago, I remember sitting at Fazoli's with Eric the Red debating this very topic: As Christians, how should we be involved in politics? It is clear that in a democracy we should vote our conscience and that as Christians our conscience should be in accordance with the spirit of God. Things become murkier when it comes to more than that. Should we be campaigning for candidates that we think uphold Christian ideals? Should we be lobbying for laws that are in accordance with God's commands for our lives? I don't think that Eric and I came to a conclusion that day, but the questions have lingered in my mind since then.
I don't claim to be an expert on how the scriptures relate to this topic, but I have come across a few things that I'll share and let you respond to. I think it would be great if you could provide specific biblical support in your responses. I'll see if I can do the same in this post.
For now, I'm ignoring the old testament because I was unable to find anything that related to how the common man should interact with the government. There were lots of things that leaders could take away, but that's not the question I'm looking at*. Instead, I will turn to the new testament.
There's a famous quote from Jesus: Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's (Matthew 22:21). We could discuss and debate the nuances of the exchange for days, but one thing is clear: Jesus differentiates between what we should do for our government and what we should do for God. But that still doesn't tell us whether we should make use of the government to do things for God, just that there is some difference between obeying the law and obeying God.
The new testament is filled with verses like this: To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God's law but am under Christ's law), so as to win those not having the law. (1 Corinthians 9:21) I'm referring to the middle part that differentiates "the law" from "God's law". Here's another one: Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law. (Galatians 3:25) This one refers to the old testament rather than "the law of the land", but I think the analogy holds that following a set of rules is not what God really wants.
This second point doesn't directly address the question of how Christianity and government should fit together, but it does cause me to question whether writing a set of rules that we must follow is really what God wants from us. Clearly we should be doing good things, but should those good things be forced on us? These verses seem to indicate that this may not be what God has in mind.
I'm also struck by a third sub-question: Does God want us to dictate what other people do? Clearly we need to be aware of what other Christians are up to so that we can support them in living a Godly lifestyle. There are instructions in the bible about how to approach fellow believers that are sinning and so forth. One place that talks about this is 1 Corinthians. When reading it, I came across this verse: What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. (1 Corinthians 5:12-13a) Though the context deals with other Christians, it is clear that God isn't calling us to make everyone conform to "Godly policies". He'll take care of that.
I won't dwell on this one, but it is clear that Jesus spent at least some amount of time helping the poor, but it was not a primary part of his ministry. Unfortunately, I don't think we can generalize from what he did. I think Jesus saying things like the poor you will always have with you, and you can help them any time you want. But you will not always have me (Mark 14:7) show what I mean.
Although there is certainly wiggle room in what I've presented, these verses seem to back up the idea that we should not be turning our religious convictions into laws, but instead they should rule our individual and group (church) lives.
I know that Joe's response to this would be "That's great, but I only care that the poor get medical care, not whether God is explicitly calling Christians to get that legislation passed. The poor will only get the medical care if the legislation is passed. Clearly God cares about the poor and wants us to care about the poor too." To pre-respond, I'll suggest that this could certainly be the case, but it ceases to be a question of what God wants all Christians to do (help those in need) and instead becomes a political question that has nothing** to do with God (how do we best balance the various needs and goals of the country?).
I'll end with a link to an article that's on the same topic, but from a different perspective.
*Please note that I didn't do much in-depth thinking on the lessons we can take from the old testament and I would love to hear what Nina or some other old testament enthusiast would bring to our attention. Probably enough there for another whole post - if only I had spent the time to research it.
**Yes, yes, everything has something to do with God. You know what I mean.
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Well, as a word of encouragement, I think your post - and any discussion we have regarding our government - has everything to do with capitalism. The government provides the structure for our version of capitalism. If we had a different vision of what "government" meant, we would not have capitalism as we know it. So perhaps to even begin to consider capitalism (or any economic system), we have to look at its backbone - the government.
Perhaps I have an unfair advantage, as I can leave comments before your day in the US gets properly started. So I will take full advantage. I have been thinking about what was said that following a set of rules is not really what God wants. The interesting thing about I Cor. 9:21 for me is that it indeed is not anti-law. It says that the old law has been replaced by Christ's law (e.g. Jesus: You have heard it said...But I say to you...).
It is a different law, true, but a law nonetheless, and a tougher law at that. One that we cannot follow without God's help, but one that we are fully expected to follow (Jesus: be perfect). The pastoral letters are certainly not anti-law, indeed they set out how the church is supposed to act in a pagan society. The writings of the early church Fathers also are not anti-law. The church didn't become anti-law until Luther, with the help of many developments up to that point - misinterpreted scripture (a slight exaggeration, but let's go with it...). And that is why I really liked the "third sub-question". The law is for those baptized into the church, not for the government. So if we talk about church law, let's differentiate this from the nation's law.
Perhaps this takes us too far afield. If it is not constructive to the discussion, forgive me.
As People of God, we have fought throughout our entire history to relegate God to a position either inside our outside government. In the Old Testament, God really didn't want Israel to have a King. He wanted to be their King. He did not want to give them an opportunity to relegate God to government and thereby get out of the requirement of honoring Him in all their thoughts, words and actions. But, the People of Israel resisted and God tried another plan to get this point through (1 Samuel 8). Eventually, Jesus came and made the same point that God did, hundreds of years earlier. He said loudly and clearly that God the Father, who is the incarnation of the the Savior/Messiah everyone has been waiting for, IS BIGGER THAN YOUR CONCEPT OF A (POLITICAL, WORLDLY) MESSIAH. He is not a government because HE is more than government. But, this doesn't mean that He doesn't want us to relegate our government under His lordship. It means that leaving God to government isn't good enough. God wants to be honored in ALL our thoughts, words and deeds.
I will go even farther. In suggesting that God, the Messiah, is not relegated to a political leader that will come upon the Jews and save them from themselves without any of their own effort, He is making demands on us to participate in our salvation. He is giving us the mandate that we must love one another deeply and love God in thoughts, words and actions. He is giving us the mandate to think of government DIFFERENTLY. He is giving "permission," if you will, for us to build our own concept of self-government. Throughout the history of Israel, the Jews would rather trust in leaders for their salvation than themselves. Jesus' ministry radically suggests that this is NOT how to conceive of one's calling. We are to live by FAITH... walk by FAITH... in God, and not in a wordly leader.
In calling us to not live by any single political leader, Jesus is also calling us to not live by any old laws that were set up for "man's sake" and not for God's sake. Therefore, Paul abolishes the requirement of non-Jews to live by the Jewish law. He is NOT separating between THE LAW for Christians and THE LAW for Jews. He is doing the exact opposite, actually. Paul advocates for a universal law of love that Jesus preaches, and says that by the Holy Spirit it will be written on believers' hearts. He is a Roman citizen doesn't think that separates him from any others who believe and trust in the Lord. This is because God is much bigger and more encompassing than the old Jewish concept of what a Messiah is and why the law was in place.
My conclusion here is that it is a huge heresy to think that a) Salvation will happen only through government or b) Salvation can happen despite government. To honor God is to take up the mandate of making our own government and making it into a mechanism for loving God and loving one another.
Paul writes (Romans 8:19), "Creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed." The people of the world are crying out desperately for those God has called liberate the world "from its bondage to decay" and bring it "into the glorious freedom of the children of God" (Romans 8:21).
What is that freedom that Paul describes here?
I think He is referring to a renewed world-- in every social, political, economic sense...
Too true, too true. Salvation cannot happen by or without the government. I appreciated story of God revealed through the Israelites in the Old Testament, as Janine so aptly retold. And, Janine, thank you for using the term "heresy". These are no light matters.
However, what is meant by "government"? Is it the modern nation-state which makes capitalism possible? Or is what the Israelites (a people under a covenant with God) meant by "government" something different from what we now mean by "government"? God has not yet made a covenant with the US government to my knowledge, though he does have the annoying tendancy of surprising me.
Instead, there is a people that God has made a covenant with - the church. What do we drink in the Eucharist? Christ's blood of the new covenant. Could the proper extension of the Israelite government be, not any nation-state, but the church? Our own government consists of pastors, priests, elders, bishops and fellow laypeople - not Congressmen, Presidents, or Prime Ministers.
So without our own government (the church) there is no salvation, but this alternative government does not bring salvation. God does. This does not mean that the whole world will not be renewed - instead the church is the foretaste of this renewed world.
Does this put God in a box? Is my God smaller than one who is bigger than the old Hebrew concepts? Who is head of this church? Christ (see Daniel's vision for what happened after the Ascension). This is why we cannot separate Jesus from the old Israelite Messiah. Jesus proclaimed himself to be that very same Messiah, every bit as political as the old concept (e.g. Andre Trocme, Jesus and the Nonviolent Revolution). However, his way of being political was too radical, so we killed him.
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